Thursday, December 24, 2009

SECULARISM

For an Indian secular means anti Sanatani [Hindu]

It has two basic reasons
• Vote bank [Muslims]
• Freedom of conversion to other religions [Christians]

If minorities are not falling in above categories then Government of India is very secular.

Did any of our be politician/bureaucrat ever bothered to say a word or do a productive for/against
• Buddhists
• Jains
• Jews
• Sikkhs
• Zoirshrians
• Other minorities; getting registered every day for benefits of constitution

India is supposed to be a secular country, but has different sets of laws in for different religions.

Flag of India does not represent any religion, but marks of religion, of writer [translator] of constitution Dr. BHIM RAO AMBEDKAR [A Buddhist}. i.e. the Buddhist Chakra with a changed name of ASHOK [who adopted it from religion Buddhism].

Our high cast Sanatani [Hindu] brothers only created a big population of non Sanatanis.

Talking of conversion to Islam, our Sanatanies [upper class], propagate & blame Mugal rulers.

Forgetting most of Muslims in India are SUNNIS, whereas the Mugals were SHIAS.

When it comes getting people in one team, why the members will ask people to join other team.

The real conversion happened after first war in independence 1957, when so badly treated [SHOODRAS] lower class Sanatanis, came to know about equality in Islam.

On date our conscious Sanatanis are protesting against Christians for conversion of poor people & adivasies. They spending lots of money & effort.
• If the same is diverted towards poor lower cast/adiwasi sanatanis; the problem will finish automatically.
• It includes the black money going in offering in temples & misused by priests in luxury & corruption.

My suggestion is to follow system of Birbal, to make the line of Akbar small.


For an Indian secular means anti Sanatani [Hindu]

I am an Indian, and quite proud of the culture I was born into. That said, I am a secular human being, without being anti-hindu.
ME SAME; SANATAN DHARM IS IT SELF SECULAR. FOR A SANATANI; DHARM DOES NOT MEAN RELIGION.
[FOR DETAILS PLEASE REFER COMING UP ARTICLE “SANATAN DHARM”].
OTHERWISE ALSO, I AM PROUD OF MY PARENTS IRRESPECTIVE OF WHAT THEY ARE.

You have written a lot about what others think, say or do. You need to present your point of views, so that we as the readers can understand and respond.
ONCE IT IS COMING OUT OF MY PEN, IT IS MY VIEW AS WELL.

1. How do you, Aditya Agarwal, understand Secularism? What does it mean to you?
I UNDERSTAND ANY CITIZEN SHALL BE TREATED WITH SAME CONSTITUTION, IRRESPECTIVE OF ANY OTHER CLASSIFICATION; INCLUDING RELIGION
2. What is your position with regard to a state being secular?
IF YOU MEAN BY STATE
• COUNTRY, THEN READ THE ARTICLE & FIND HOW SECULAR IT IS.
• PROVINCE, GET A NON MUSLIM CHIEF MINISTER FOR JAMMU & KASHMIR.
Talking about vote banks, I agree there are religious vote banks in India. People from the cow belt have cultivated such a vote bank for their own good. It wasn't a muslim leader who created a muslim vote bank.
• THE SUBJECT “POLITICIAN” HAS NO RELIGION.
• PEOPLE REFUSING, “CIVIL RIGHTS TO A CITIZEN OF INDIA” ARE NOT PART OF DISCUSSIONS.
• COW BELT PEOPLE ARE ALSO POLITICIANS.
• TALKING OF COW SLAUGHTER:
o IN BASIC BOOKS OF SANATAN DHARM “VEDAS”; “BEEF” IS PRESCRIBED FOR A PERSON LOOKING FOR MALE CHILD.
o IT WAS HARDLY 1000 YEARS BACK, GURU SHANKAR-ACHARYA CAME UP WITH THE IDEA/SLOGAN, “COW HELPS US LIKE MOTHER, GIVES US MILK”.
o HENCE WE SHALL CALL HER MOTHER, & WILL NOT SLAUGHTER HER, IN TURN NOT EAT BEEF.
• MY ARTICLE IS NOT ABOUT PERSONS OF ANY RELIGION, IT IS ABOUT ACTIVE POLITICIANS & THEIR VOTE BANKS.
Let us pity the muslims of India for being too gullible and Isn't there a 'so-called' Hindu vote bank too?
LET US REDEFINE GULLIBLE MUSLIMS, THEY TOOK ONE THIRD OF INDIA ON BASIS OF RELIGION & HALF THEM STAYED BACK. NOT LIMITING TO THAT, ARE KICKING THE CONSTITUTION OF INDIA, IN THE NAME OF RELIGION.

There was a BJP-led UPA government for five years (almost). Their mandate wasn't to build a temple for a 'king' who doesn't have temples in other parts of India.
ARE THE [BJP & UPA] MEMBERS NOT POLITICIAN.
THERE IS NO RELEVANCE BETWEEN KING & TEMPLE.
Their mandate wasn't to explode a nuclear device and then distribute the "holy sand" as prasad to the idiotic mass.
I AGREE.
If the congress party has used and abused the English word secularism; the UPA government had a responsibility to set the record straight.
I AGREE.
THE SUBJECT IS NOT POLITICAL PARTY; IT IS POLITICIANS.
One mandate the UPA government had was to work on the "Uniform Civil Code" - which we need as a nation.
THE SUBJECT IS NOT POLITICAL PARTIES; IT IS POLITICIANS & THEIR WAY OF HANDLING..
You have served too many "food for thought", without explaining your position on any of it.
I AM SERVING FOOD FOR THOUGHT, NOT DIGESTIVES. AT THE SAME TIME I HAVE NO INTENTION TO ERASE THE IDEA OF READER.
Secularism, Black Money, Vote Bank, Equality, Religious Conversion.
I THINK I HAVE ELABORATED MY STAND.
I AM REPRESENTING A COMMON MAN [NOT AN EXPERT].
I AM TRYING TO AWAKEN PEOPLE AROUND ME & MAKE THEM UNDERSTAND, DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE CAPTIONS & CONTENTS.

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